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Dr. Greer's Credibility Questioned...Twice!

S. Santa writes (

I don't know what Greer's problem is either, but I do know a Machiavellian type when I hear/see one. I'm retired, 20 years US. Coast Guard, and held a TOP SECRET security clearance for about 18 of those years whilst working in the Communications/COMSEC field.....I find it difficult, if not UNBELIEVABLE to hear someone and I don't care who he or she is, say he's in contact with over 200 military "contacts" that are in the know, that's pure BS as I'm sure all of you prior military people reading this will know.

Yes, there's a great probability that the U.S. Govt is hiding something from the rest of us, by that statement I do mean military too. But, and this is a BIG point, classified information is so compartmentalized, sometimes so much so that one hand doesn't know what the other is doing, let alone having 200 people that are "in" on the secret, that is preposterous to say the least. One has a "need to know" or they don't, and if they don't, no matter what their rank, they don't "get in on the secret," whatever it is. Also, EVERYONE who is issued a clearance, no matter what level, is required to sign a "whistleblower" statement that's a permanent part of your record, even after one retires, it's a document that is valid for 50 years after one signs it, so that pretty much covers your life.

This is a kind of a double edged sword in that there are, I believe quite a few persons who are in the know on the UFO/ALIEN situation, but, like Greer states, are not talking because of their sworn and signed statements previously mentioned. I can assure you that not only are they not talking, they are not talking to a GOOF like Greer. Of course this said, all from my perspective and experience in the military in dealing with the classified side of things, BUT if I KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS UFO/ALIEN thing, I can also assure you that GREER would be the LAST person I'd want to talk to about this. I can think of a dozen or so other "professionals" out there who'd I'd rather get a message to than him. In all, his statements sound and come across as delusions of grandeur, rather than someone who has the scoop on this. I'd tell everyone to take a look at the outstanding work that Len Stringfield did and all the information he received over the years. What he did and wrote about and how he made "contacts" in the military I can deal with, and I believe him and his STATUS REPORTS, which dealt with "anonymous" informants. He put it all out on the table and let the reader make their own minds up about the information. What GREER is doing is exactly what some sort of a cult leader would do to make himself an important figurehead and bring lots of attention to himself, {and he is succeeding}. I'm glad CAUS is going after him and I wholeheartedly support CAUS in their attempt to make him put up or shut up.

CAUS COMMENT: The following is a letter written by Dr. Greer in response to former CIA Director R. James Woolsey's comments that Dr. Greer was not being truthful in his latest book about the characterizeration of their meeting. Now why doesn't this surprise me. And yes...I would take anybody's word over Greer's...even the director of the CIA. Dr. Greer is a legend in his own mind.

Dr. Steven Greer writes:

Tonight I was asked by the editor of a small UFO newsletter (CNI News) to comment on a recent letter signed by former CIA Director R. James Woolsey et al regarding my meeting with him on December 13,1993. Apparently, this letter was sent to Michael Lindemann for publication in the September 30 edition of the CNI newsletter.

Mr. Woolsey and the others question the accuracy ( or manners) of my depiction of this meeting in the introduction of my new book "Extraterrestrial Intelligence: The Evidence and Implications" ( You can read this introduction on the website for yourself.

Mr. Woolsey et al have a very selective memory of this nearly 3 hour briefing of a sitting CIA Director. If anything, and my wife who was present can attest to this, my description of the meeting is incredibly understated.

In his letter, Mr. Woolsey (now apparently a lobbyist in Washington) implies that this was not a briefing but only a dinner party, and that the dinner party was not a cover story for the briefing, etc.

It must be understood that it was a friend of the CIA Director, Mr. Petersen - not myself - who characterized the dinner party as a cover story for the meeting with the CIA Director. Indeed, Mr. Petersen made the arrangements for this meeting and hosted it at his home in Arlington VA . He told me and my wife that even his wife did not know Mr. Woolsey was coming to their home for dinner until the morning of the briefing.

They claim my characterization and specific references describing the meeting were inaccurate. Not at all.

Quoting from a sensitive memo FedEx'ed to my home from Mr. Petersen, who made all of the arrangements with the CIA Director:

"I talked to Woolsey this morning and he (underlined in the original) suggested getting together over dinner. He was not aware of your organization or that anyone was planning such an announcement {regarding UFOs/smg} . This almost certainly means that , 1)there is an active attempt being made at lower levels of government to sabotage Project Starlight {the CSETI UFO disclosure effort/smg}, 2) this group almost certainly has tapped your phones and is aware of most of the details of your plans..."

"If we do have dinner with Jim (Woolsey), we will have moved this whole thing to a much , much higher plane and in doing so raised significant red flags for those who don't want to see this succeed. Operation Starlight will become a serious (underlined) threat to the status quo."

"Meetings with people like Woolsey must be kept very closely guarded. I have not even told Diane {Mr. Petersen's wife/smg} about it."

"You must understand that great principalities and powers will oppose your plans..."

Then, all in bold: " Remember: the most powerful people in the world will have a deep, compelling interest in our activities and will use everything (in italics) at their disposal to effect their objectives."

And so forth.

Mr. Petersen, who heads up a national security think tank called The Arlington Institute, was working very closely with me during those days and had substantial experience in national security and military matters.

From the above quotes it is obvious that this was no mere dinner party! The dinner party was only the cover - and the stakes were and are every bit what Mr. Petersen describes.

As for other information contested in Mr. Woolsey's letter, I stand by the account. Regarding Mr. Woolsey's UFO sighting : This was first conveyed to me by his long-time friend Mr. Petersen and was later confirmed at the briefing.

In my new book, I reproduce the document handed to Mr. Woolsey during the briefing. In this document, which I handed personally to him, we recommend that Mr. Woolsey and the President move decisively towards a near-term disclosure of the UFO/ETI matter. Just a dinner party?

I am certain that Mr. Woolsey knew the UFOs were real and that a very deep cover project was running that area - a project which had kept the CIA Director himself in the dark.

Later in their letter, Mr. Woolsey et al complain that my conduct "contravenes ....simple manners". Manners? I was on Larry King Live over 9 months after the meeting with the CIA Director . But this meeting was not disclosed, because Mr. Woolsey was still in office and I felt decorum necessitated silence regarding such meetings. I have behaved with the utmost restraint and have disclosed such matters only after very careful consideration. Indeed, I would not be writing this letter except that Lindemann at CNI plans to publish Mr. Woolsey's 'sanitized ' account of the briefing and has compelled me to write. (Why Mr. Woolsey et al would make such a letter available to Lindemann is beyond me.) I made no pact of silence regarding such meetings. And since disclosing this meeting, I have always portrayed Mr. Woolsey and his wife as people seeking the truth of such matters and as people who wanted excessive secrecy ended. Perhaps I was wrong...

Manners? Indeed - if anything, perhaps I have been too restrained.

Good 'manners' as it pertains to this subject means speaking the truth - and being willing to stand up for it. Good manners would be public servants such as Mr. Woolsey, Dr. Woolsey and others doing the right thing and working ardently for the truth to be told regarding UFOs and ETI. Good manners should mean being more concerned for the health of our democracy and the constitution than covering-up the import and purpose of such a briefing. And good manners would be joining in the effort to disclose a matter which, once made public, would allow earth-saving technologies to be revealed which would halt the wholesale destruction of our eco-system.

As a very busy emergency doctor in NC, with 4 young daughters, I assure you that we did not make that brief trip to Washington DC on December 13, 1993 to sight-see or just to have dinner. But rather, we made that journey to plead for the end of super - secret projects which are being withheld from the people so that our democracy could be made whole and our children's future made sustainable.

The current attempt to minimize, obfuscate or cover-up the purpose and details of this briefing with the CIA Director is quite disconcerting -and strange. Why Mr. Woolsey and the others would write such a letter is unknown to me. We can only speculate. I stand by my account. But now, perhaps the time has come for ''we the people' to demand that current and former officials such as CIA Director Woolsey and the President be held responsible for the the lack of action on resolving this most pressing problem. After all, we pay their salaries, provide their perks - and they represent us. It is not I who needs defense. My actions over these long years have spoken my commitment. But we still await action from our elected and appointed officials. As the earth groans under the weight of the errosive and corrupting influences of big money and special interests, I wonder just how much longer we shall have to wait...

I think it is time that the American people demand that the waiting time be over.

Steven M. Greer M.D.
CSETI Director
23 September 1999
Albemarle County Virginia

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copyright 1999 Steven M. Greer M.D.


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